I'm kicking around the idea of putting together a poly-oriented anthology and have put a few requests out there for material.
I'm looking for short stories, poetry, possilby some excerpts from longer fiction. I received some material from a writer that is pretty good but completely wrong for the anthology. There is one poem I can use as it is currently written, an autobiographical essay I might be able to use if it was tweaked a little and more openly poly. But this being on the editor end of things is disconcerting.
Does anybody ever send a piece back and say rewrite it? Do you tell the person what you're looking for? In this case, I'm the one who wasn't clear. I could just say "no thanks" but my goal is to build community as well as publish so I'm inclined to try a different approach. Looking for experience out there, especially from editor/publishers.
Lori
I'm looking for short stories, poetry, possilby some excerpts from longer fiction. I received some material from a writer that is pretty good but completely wrong for the anthology. There is one poem I can use as it is currently written, an autobiographical essay I might be able to use if it was tweaked a little and more openly poly. But this being on the editor end of things is disconcerting.
Does anybody ever send a piece back and say rewrite it? Do you tell the person what you're looking for? In this case, I'm the one who wasn't clear. I could just say "no thanks" but my goal is to build community as well as publish so I'm inclined to try a different approach. Looking for experience out there, especially from editor/publishers.
Lori
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Re: turning down submissions
Fri, September 16, 2005 - 10:36 AMThe nicest HONEST rejection I've ever received was someone who simply said the piece wasn't right for their publication.
That's really al you need to tell someone. You can tell 'em what you would LIKE to see (for example: "we prefer stories that end on more of a twist"), but asking for rewrites, well... Let them suggest that.
So, if they say "Okay, I understand you're looking for non-fiction, but this sci-fi story is, actually, based on something true -- if I rewrite it in a non-fiction way, would that be better?" then you can feel free to say "Sure, yeah, give it a shot, kid". -
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Re: turning down submissions
Fri, September 16, 2005 - 1:11 PMThanks Edward. That helps a lot.
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Re: turning down submissions
Tue, September 20, 2005 - 4:12 PMIf something is just not going to work at all, you can just say "Sorry, it's not right for this publication." Short and sweet.
if you're interested in working with the writer to make it more in line with your theme, it's perfectly OK to make suggestions or ask them to rework it, That's why you're the editor! Just try not to guarantee them you'll accept it if they the rewrite: they may just not be able to do what you're looking for. But I've known editors who've rewritten other peoples' things, even poetry, and then published it without getting the writer's OK, and that is definitely a big No-No. Talk about breeding resentment! -
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Re: turning down submissions
Tue, October 11, 2005 - 11:16 AM"But I've known editors who've rewritten other peoples' things, even poetry, and then published it without getting the writer's OK, and that is definitely a big No-No."
Yeah... I made that social gaffe once when I was young and stupid. If I ever bump into that writer again and he DOESN'T deck me, I plan to apologize.
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Re: turning down submissions
Sat, September 24, 2005 - 8:19 PMI've asked people to do major re-writes and have worked a long time trying to get the piece right. But usually this is only with friends- people I know and have made some sort of investment with. I've found that a lot of people don't want to put the work in to make the piece good, so when you ask them to re-write it really solves the problem for you. You'd be surprised how many people don't want to edit their own writing or change it.
It's important to build community and be inclusive. It's also important when you are attaching your name to something to make it GOOD. -
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Re: turning down submissions
Tue, October 11, 2005 - 11:17 AM"It's also important when you are attaching your name to something to make it GOOD."
Martha, you're spot-on here! Lori, remember that when all is said and done, it's YOUR 'zine, so YOU will be the person people associate with it. If YOU are happy with the contents, then it's gonna be good for you, even if other people think it stinks. -
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Re: turning down submissions
Tue, October 11, 2005 - 5:49 PM"If YOU are happy with the contents, then it's gonna be good for you, even if other people think it stinks. "
What exactly are you trying to say here, Edward?
Yep, I took a shot at it and the author in question was very open to rewriting. She wants to know how long it can be. Oh my!
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Re: turning down submissions
Wed, October 12, 2005 - 8:48 AM"What exactly are you trying to say here, Edward?"
That basically, there are four possible results to a situation where you publish anything, be it a 'zine, a story, a book, a movie, anything:
#1: You personally love it, and everyone else loves it.
No brainer. Everybody's happy.
#2: You personally love it, but everyone else hates it.
Annoying, but at least you still have your soul intact. Good.
#3: You personally don't like it, but everyone else loves it.
Great in a way, but you always have a nagging suspicion that someone will discover you're just fooling everybody and you'll be exposed as a fraud.
#4: You personally don't like it, and everyone else hates it.
Overall major suck. You're a fraud to your soul, plus people hate it and you resent those bastards, 'cause you did it for THEM, dammit.
So, make sure what you do and what you publish is true to your soul and that you will stand up for it amidst the slings and arrows of the dumb motherfuckers who claim to hate it, but just don't understand it. The people who want to read the kind of thing you want to publish will find it and love it.
This, of course, applies to most anything in life, but the subject here is 'zines. 8)
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Re: turning down submissions
Wed, October 12, 2005 - 8:48 AM"Yep, I took a shot at it and the author in question was very open to rewriting."
Cool!
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